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After years of training, Kate Kane returns to Gotham to become a member of her father Jacob's security team, the Crows. Batman disappeared three years ago, and Gotham is just now beginning to adjust to his absence. When the Wonderland Gang abducts Kate's former lover Sophie, Kate discovers a secret about her cousin Bruce that will change her life... and the lives of everyone in Gotham.

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Gothic 5 points 1 month ago

For me, Meh, i can only hope it will get better

jcpscout 5 points 1 month ago

If only shows excelled because of promise. I admit I lost a little interest when the media went all “GAY SUPERHERO WOMAN”. Who cares about the gay angle. Just tell a story and let us work out the details.

Rob Apples -1 points 1 month ago

The character is gay in the comics… soooo…

Farren2020 4 points 1 month ago

the original Batwoman was created partially to show that Batman was not gay. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Batwoman

Krl246 2 points 1 month ago

They made the 2006 version gay, the original was not.

jcpscout 2 points 1 month ago

Never said there was an issue of her being gay, I said the how the media made it all about her being a gay superhero woman. No one cares about that and it generally turns viewers away. It would have been fine as WOMAN SUPERHERO. The gay material should stay but her being gay isn’t the story.

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starshineontop 4 points 1 month ago

The writing, acting, and fighting are all weak ! ! !

Angeldawnsoul 8 points 1 month ago

All of the CW shows are that way.

starshineontop 6 points 1 month ago

LOL, good point

Canilive4life 2 points 1 month ago

im only commenting because of what you said. lol i stop watching cw when Jerry Springer wasn’t on late night lol it was all down hill for them. I do not watch anything on the CW won’t even watch this.

Jhigh03 0 points 1 month ago

I just find it funny that Springer is better than anything on the CW now.

RowdyRepublican 2 points 1 month ago

Who cares? It’s a show. Watch it or don’t. I gave up on CW DC since they canceled Arrow…;(

nikkimckelvy 1 points 1 month ago *

Is anyone else P.O’ed by the stereotype that a strong, independent fighting woman has to be gay? Why can’t we have a straight, strong, independent fighting woman? I am sick of the stereotype. The few times when we have an independent, straight, fighting woman, most of the time she has to be rescued still by a man. Show a straight woman who can handle herself in a fight. Break that stereotype. I’m not against gays. I’m against stereotyping that all strong, aggressive, fighting women have to be gay.

Odie 2 points 1 month ago

Ripley from aliens, Sarah Connor from Terminator, wonderwoman, captain marvel, Clarice sterling from silence of the lambs, the Bride from kill Bill, Buffy the Vampire slayer, just a few off the top of the head, Also Batwoman is gay in the comics soo…..

Krl246 2 points 1 month ago

Clarice Sterling, that’s debatable, she seemed like a “Grey” sexual. She wouldn’t know what to do with feelings for anyone if she had them. Also they made the 2006 Batwoman gay, the original 1950’s one was not. She was actually created to squash rumors of Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson being an item. Which just goes to show how producers will do anything to a character in order to get more viewers. Never understood how your going to have a relationship as a vigilante on that level anyway. It just ends up being camouflage for you crime fighting ways. What’s wrong with two guys who’s relationship goes beyond sex to a deeper love than any possible by normal people, or, not needing to be codependent on someone. They should of just let Robin be gay in the 50’s. Batwoman could of been another Clarice, what’s wrong with self sufficient women. Everyone is perfectly willing to let Bruce be a confirmed bachelor for life, but not Kate, what hypocritical nonsense.

MissMorgue -2 points 1 month ago

If you ever read the books you know that Clarice Starling (or a woman strongly suggested to beher) actually was seen with Dr Lecter after he made his escape. She went with him, and isn’t a unknown sexual character.

Krl246 -4 points 1 month ago(Contains Spoilers)

Harris was a terrible writer of females and characters outside the normal sexual spectrum. In my opinion that ending is a travesty to the character and strength of Clarice Starling. While Jody Foster is a great actress who’s professionalism carried through into the role with great affect. I never read Hannibal for that very reason.

MissMorgue 2 points 1 month ago

There are plenty of people who are terrible writers in general, you choosing to dismiss the canonical ending of a book series because it doesn’t suit your agenda or what you believe should be done when writing women doesn’t mean you’re right. The series ends with them together. And I wasn’t talking about Jodie Foster, as she was only in the first film, Julianne Moore was the one who reprised the role of Clarice Starling in the film adaptation of Hannibal.

Krl246 -1 points 1 month ago

I hardly think I am the only one who thinks that way, and the fact that there are other bad writers doesn’t in anyway make my thoughts on the matter invalid. The Julianne Moore interpretation was based on the movie in which Jody Foster starred due to the fact it didn’t follow the book. As for an agenda, I just think a role portrayed by a woman about a woman is better than one written by a misogynist about what he thinks a woman would do.

MissMorgue 0 points 1 month ago *

Ted Tally is a man who wrote the screenplay. Jody Foster worked based on his writing and she was directed by another man, Jonathan Demme.

Krl246 -1 points 1 month ago

Okay you seem overly vested in trying to change what is in essence a personal opinion. I can’t seem to find an actual point to this except anger and confrontation fro you. And now you want it to be some sort of mansplaining defense on your part. Jody Foster is a great actor I like her version and it’s the one I identify with, you do her an injustice by saying she didn’t put anything into the role. An attack on my personality based on assumption does you a disservice as well, it comes off as disingenuous. I’m glad you are lesbian female, I’m also glad homosexuality is acceptable enough that shows like this can even happen. Using that as a soap box to skew perspective on me as some anti-feminist is insulting and a logical fallacy.

MissMorgue 0 points 1 month ago *

First of all - I never said she did not bring anything into the role. I explained that she was given a script written by a man, based on a book that was written by a man and in the film she was directed by a man. In that portion of the Book and Film series Clarice Starling was not a sexually active character as she was a student put into a case assignment based on her performance in schooling and training. When pointed out that she is not a sexually “grey” character as you put it you’ve gone on the defence about how your opinion of her and the writer who created the character in general is far better than that of the given facts that point out that a character who was played by a lesbian actress and a hetero actress is in fact a woman of the hetero persuasion and ended up with the man she has been chasing her entire career. I am far from angry or perturbed or any other adjective you’d like to spew at me. I am simply stating facts that the strong HETEROSEXUAL character of Clarice Starling is indeed a HETEROSEXUAL character who is in the media and thus apart of the entire genre of strong independent women who for the most part needed exactly zero men to save her while maintaining her HETEROSEXUALITY and non-lesbian status. Now kindly go away.

Krl246 0 points 1 month ago

She seems grey to me.

MissMorgue -2 points 1 month ago *

the character regardless of what you think/feel/say is a heterosexual character.

Krl246 -1 points 1 month ago

That’s matter of perspective. And the quality of being a grey doesn’t mean you can’t have hetero relationships, I think think that might be the source of your anger at me, at least I hope. As a lesbian you should be more aware of that fact then most. Again this is only clarification as you seem quite intent on taking this as a personal attack, which it is not. Please stop the false accusations and name calling, it’s quite disturbing.

MissMorgue 0 points 1 month ago *

The character is not a grey area of the unknown, she’s a heterosexual character. Morally grey, yes. Romantically and sexually, no. I am not angry, I want you to leave me alone and stop replying to my comments. So again GO AWAY PLEASE AND THANK YOU.

Krl246 -1 points 1 month ago

Again that’s your perspective and I accept the differences we have. What I don’t get is why you find it acceptable to be so insulting just because of a difference of opinion.

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Krl246 -1 points 1 month ago

You have completely lost your mind haven’t you?

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Krl246 0 points 1 month ago

Again all apologies, for my attempt at gaining a consensus.

octoberswill -3 points 1 month ago

ok….no….Jessica Jones, Storm…I mean pretty much 99 percent of super hero females don’t get rescued and aren’t gay…I sense some homophobia here….it was actually HUGE that they made Bat Woman gay…it was huge cuz it was rare…..do your homework before saying stupid shite…

kingarco66 -4 points 1 month ago *

id much prefer new characters to re writing old ones .. writers who cant write an original character have no business altering a classic one, especially if the original creators are dead
if you need a bat themed gay girl vigilante for your plot .. WRITE ONE

Krl246 0 points 1 month ago

I’ve said this before too. If you really want to be accepting of gays in comics, get gay writers to right new gay characters. Then you won’t be infringing on beloved characters that people already formed a relationship with, and the new character won’t have all this unnecessary baggage of pinkwashing. That said though, a good writer can do anything they want with a comic and it won’t matter how they change a character.

octoberswill -5 points 1 month ago

bruh…do you not understand that that is exactly how comic book writers work?….this is fucking canon….she is…in recent comic book lore…lesbian…fuck you if you can’t accept this….you are being small minded.

kingarco66 2 points 1 month ago

originally she was not .. swearing at me wont change that

kingarco66 -2 points 1 month ago

try this idea .. xaime hernandez dies, and I get the property .. I think his comics are awesome, but Opie would most definitely be a better character if she was straight
you cool with that?

octoberswill -7 points 1 month ago

if swearing at you won’t change it…..why bring it up…it’s my expression if you use it as a tool….then you are the asshole….

kingarco66 0 points 1 month ago *

i see
do you have any actual ideas about the subject?
you know, counter arguments? rebuttals? confutations? rejoinders?
or is abuse the only tool in the toolbox there
if youve really never tried before, thats ok, first time for everything .. go on, give it a go

Krl246 -1 points 1 month ago(Contains Spoilers)

She’s only been gay for the past 12 years, the 50 years before that she wasn’t.

Themoo 2 points 1 month ago

Past 50 years? Don’t be daft. The character did not even survive a decade in comics before being abandoned. The 2006 one, has the longevity and thusly the seniority. there’S a hell of a lot more out there on Kate Kane than Kathy Kane.

Krl246 -1 points 1 month ago

Just because the character wasn’t actively being published doesn’t mean the comics that were written disappear and the characters back story is invalid. DC’s attempt to shoehorn an old defunct character into a new role as a lesbian is exactly what I would expect of a lazy money grubbing production powerhouse house. What will you do when the back story changes again instead of having a decidedly pure lesbian character that they can’t take that away from. I’m just stating she wasn’t always homosexual, which means it’s likely that can change at any time they wish. There is no real security to a character like that.

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MissMorgue -4 points 1 month ago

Seriously have you not been paying attention to anything in the modern media, just hating on the fact we get a homosexual heroine in the DCU?? Kate Kane is a lesbian, fact. Kate Kane is a strong well trained fighter, fact. Kate Kane is Batwoman, fact. Why can’t we get a strong independent male hero whose gay/has zero love interests/is not suffering from tragic backstory so people know he has feelings?? How about you just enjoy the show and quit the complaining about the gays getting representation in the media via a strong, independent fighting female superhero.

Krl246 -1 points 1 month ago(Contains Spoilers)

The original 1950s Katherine Kane was not a lesbian and in fact was a circus performer. She was a beard for Batman, which sucked, because it was obvious Robin is gay and batman is damaged beyond the point of loving in that way.

MissMorgue 2 points 1 month ago

I am well aware of Kathy Kane and her entire existence coming into play in 1956 a solid two years after the publication of a book that cause people to question if the fictional character of Batman was indeed gay or not; she was removed from the DCU in 1964 and then in the 70’s a limited series Crisis on Infinite Earths re-established that Batwoman’s existence was on an Earth separate from DC’s main continuity. Ergo the hetero-love interest of Kathy Kane is not apart of the DCU as anything but a side character. The character of Kate Kane was reintroduce in 2006 week 7 of the 52 and then after the DC Rebirth it was made apparent that she is now Bruce Wayne’s cousin and a lesbian. Yes there are random instances of mentions of Kathy in the new model of the DCU but that still does not change that fact that Kate Kane and Kathy Kane are two entirely separate characters and that the one this entire show is based off of is a lesbian.

Krl246 -1 points 1 month ago

If that’s how you see it. But, if DC made her a lesbian they can unmake her a lesbian when it goes out of fashion. It comes off as disingenuous of DC to not distinguish the characters fully. And you can make the same argument about all DCU characters since the creation of the New 52. It’s a lazy attempt to grab viewers without developing true security in unconventional new characters.

MissMorgue 1 points 1 month ago *

That isn’t how I see it, get your head out of the clouds and actually do a bit of research about the characters you’re talking about and maybe learn that this character and the one you’ve been so loving holding onto this entire time are two separate characters from two entirely different ages/eras of comic books. If they choose to make a new version of Kate Kane and she’s not a lesbian then of well, its not likely to happen given that there is a rather large following in the LGBT+ community who read about this particular character; who have had such a demand for her that what do you know she got a TV series.

Krl246 -2 points 1 month ago

That’s how you see it, cool, I respect your opinion, I wish you could respect mine without stooping to baseless accusations on my personality though. Fact Batwoman wasn’t always a lesbian that’s all I said. You want to make it out to be more than that I don’t know why, it doesn’t take away from the newer interpretation of the role, and for you to take it as a personal attack on yourself seems like an over reaction. I’m sorry if you feel condescended towards but my comment wasn’t aimed at you or the new show, it was just that a statement of fact about Katherine Kane’s history that you yourself have agreed to being a fact.

MissMorgue -1 points 1 month ago *

You have taken it upon yourself to inform EVERY SINGLE PERSON in various comments that and I will direct quote you here, “The original 1950s Katherine Kane was not a lesbian and in fact was a circus performer. She was a beard for Batman, which sucked, because it was obvious Robin is gay and batman is damaged beyond the point of loving in that way.” - That is exactly what you have said to me, when it was explained with detailed FACTS that the character you have beating about the comments is not the character that this show is based off you have continued to harass me in particular. Now then as I have proven that your soapboxing a character that does not exist in the current DCU as anything other than a mention or side note character from a non-canonical line of the series, it useless and that pointing it out to every person is a mote point can you kindly cease the replies to me because I really do not want to see a notification from you in my inbox again.

Krl246 -2 points 1 month ago

I have at no time said anything harassing you, and only stated opinions and objective facts. Both characters are Batwoman and Katherine Kane, and originally she was a hetero circus performer. While you have demonized my personality in an attempt to gain some sort of upperhand in a nonexistent argument. You have been quite mean as a matter of fact and I am really confused as to why. I like the idea of Robin being gay so what, and I don’t think Batman is interested in a sexual relationship. That’s not so bad is it. I don’t see why this couldn’t have been a nice conversation without it breaking down into venomous name calling and assassination of my character.

MissMorgue 1 points 1 month ago *

She was heterosexual FORMER circus performer and HEIRESS - Batman is also a Heterosexual character and very much interested in sex, so again you’re wrong on that statement as well. He’s had multiple female partners from Barbra Gordon (bat girl) to Tailia Al Ghul and is married to Catwoman in some instances. He’s also been married to Harley Quinn. I am being dismissive to you and your continued insistence to be on my comments, because I personally find you to be a soapboxing troll with a need to have the last word. I’ve asked you repeatedly to cease commenting and yet here you are. Leave me alone, no further comments no passing go.

Krl246 -2 points 1 month ago

I’m not wrong it’s just a different perspective on a character than you have. Calling me names doesn’t solidify your view any more than it detracts from mine or any writer who changes the character for their story. I’m sorry you feel so angry about this and can’t see your way to an understanding.

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Krl246 -1 points 1 month ago

Are you sure your a lesbian?

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Krl246 -2 points 1 month ago

I just thought that maybe we could reach an understanding as two people, but, I think that might be an unattainable position. Forgive me for questioning your sexuality it was an attempt to make the situation a little more light hearted through humor, and it was below me as a person.

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Jhigh03 -1 points 1 month ago

Simply put, because almost every successful show has some kind of love angle, even if it is only implied. Tends to give a series legs and an idea to play around with. Can’t really have a conflict with A Big Bad every episode without some filler or downtime.

MissMorgue -3 points 1 month ago

“Almost Every” as in not all shows have to have a obligatory love interest who people can spot a mile away every time they are introduced. My counter was focused on the male aspect because OP was complaining about the fact Kate Kane happens to be a “lesbian stereotype”, which for the instance of this show yes her character has to be a lesbian because that is how her character is written in the comic books, along with being a well trained strong female character. I do not hate love interests in shows, I hate people complaining about stereotypes when it’s not always the case and the stereotype that they see is actually gay representation that does not get the same treatment as heterosexual representation. That only thing I know for certain is that this will likely be the first show where they can not kill off every single lesbian love interest as other shows do and have done in the past - but I already feel as if they are going to wave the magical make her straight wand and turn them all into suddenly not lesbians.

Jhigh03 0 points 1 month ago *

I get all of your points, I was only pointing out whyzero love interests does not typically exist in american television. I did say almost since their is an exception to every rule. I’m really only replying to clarify you saying Batwoman has to be gay on tv because thats the way she is written in the comic. I’m not 100 percent positive but the dc shows on CW have not always followed cannon, so they could have wrote the tv character any way they wanted to. I dont think most people really care one way or another it’s just when things are changed to appease certain groups of people. No one seemed to care when Clark had a girlfriend on The 100 as it fit with the character

MissMorgue -2 points 1 month ago

I never watched The 100 nor have I ever cared to, so I can not complain about his having a girlfriend - my comments about she would have to be gay in the instance of this television series is that they are basing it off the 2006 (to present) comics and if they were to change that piece of information the backlash would have been also over news sites and gossip blogs galore. People are only complaining now because it’s a lesbian fronted show where the lead does not hide their sexuality. The actress Ruby Rose (who plays Batwoman/Kate Kane) has actually left social media sites like Twitter because first she was seen as to gay and then when it was announced she was cast as Kate Kane she was seen as not gay enough. Her entire reason for leaving was because of so called fans attacking her sexuality in a backlash because she was playing an openly gay lead superhero. If they wanted to change things about the comics to fit into the show, go for it; no one is stopping them; but when they change something as iconic as one of the first openly gay main characters in the DCU they will have to be able to back up this change and give a great deal of reasons why. Because at the end of the day it was their decision to make the gay heroin into a TV series.

Jhigh03 1 points 1 month ago

Only read the first sentence of ur reply, u seem to mbe looking for arguments wherever. I’m not here for that nonsense as I was really only stating facts. And by the way, Clark is a female so it was a gay relationship,lol.

MissMorgue -1 points 1 month ago

As stated, I have not seen The 100 and have no desire to see it; so my knowledge of any character in the show is entirely lacking. Including that of naming a female character with a traditionally male name.. Assuming that I was seeking a fight was incorrect and so with that I bid you goodnight and goodbye.

mjbourquin 1 points 1 month ago

Interesting that you mentioned clark being a traditionally male name because I hadn’t even thought about it. I wouldn’t assume it was done intentionally and I actually kind of like the 100. I hate star trek discovery though for different reasons and they did the same thing with Michael’s character. The problem in that show was they really overplayed her character. IMO they didn’t in the 100. There were many main characters just as important.

Jhigh03 0 points 1 month ago

Well u got me, I’m sorry for assuming u were looking for a fight. I read the first line of ur reply and it was very argumentative in nature.

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Krl246 -5 points 1 month ago

I really don’t care if they are or not, but, don’t hang your hat on it. Saying that someone is homosexual, and, then enrobing them in all the tropes and stereotypes of the category is offensive. Super sexy butch lesbian who gets back in the closet for her nightly vigilantism, it’s all very sophomoric.

BUDDHA 2 points 1 month ago

shows promise…

Pad Solo 2 points 1 month ago * (Contains Spoilers)

It’s the first episode people and imo im glad she got there quick rather than taking half a season. Give this show a chance, i know for a fact it appeals to more than comic fans.

etim -2 points 1 month ago

Whoever cleaned up the comments, thank you.
I gotta admit though, all that negative hype from the anti-gay crybabies made me go into it with somewhat lowered expectations, making it turn out to be an even better watch than it would have been w/out the hype. I’ll def. be watching more, so thanks crybabies.

Marqsupream 1 points 1 month ago

All these unnecessary comments about her sexuality is disheartening. For a CW show it’s pretty on par with everything else that airs on the network. Kinda cheesy but worth it. I was only reluctant because I was unfamiliar with ruby rose as an actress but I feel like it could get better 1 episode is not enough to completely write her off but hopefully it will get better. Story wise not very complicated too easy to understand but as I said before it’s the CW what do you expect. Look PEOPLE are gay get over it everyone’s experiences has the right to be shown on tv I don’t see the big deal in her being a lesbian no one cared in 2006 but now all of a sudden she’s a beloved character that cant be changed? y’all weren’t even alive in the 50’s to bring that version up how pathetic. I give this show an unbiased 3/5 let’s wait and see if it’s actually a bad show before you write it off as such based on your own undercover homophobia

Lunchbox37 2 points 1 month ago

Totally agree like I said no matter what someone is going to cry about the dumbest shit. To gay not gay enough who care today people focus on the most sad pathetic little shit. Just enjoy some Batman related entertainment!

RoboPhone -2 points 1 month ago *

I’m in total agreement with you both on all counts. I also enjoy Batman and all related Superhero programs. I really missed the original Birds of Prey Show when it was cancelled, during Network ownership changes back in 2002.

But there’s great news ahead for those Characters! In February of 2020, a resurrection of sorts takes place when Harley Quinn (played by none other than Margot Robbie reprising her role from Suicide Squad) joins them in a spinoff Movie aptly called ‘Birds of Prey: And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn’. Check it out HERE and make sure to Add it to your Watch List.

But Wait! There’s More! According to Warner Brothers, another Suicide Squad Spinoff is being developed called ‘Gotham City Sirens’, and will feature Harley, Catwoman, and Poison Ivy. Watch out, Gotham! These girls are going to paint the town red!

Jhigh03 1 points 1 month ago

Very well said and probably the way most people feel, as I do. It’s a shame when the minority becomes the most vocal causing others with valid complaints or critcisms to go unnoticed.

doow90 1 points 1 month ago(Contains Spoilers)

So if you saw my comment on Supergirl S5E1 you knew this one was coming afterwards. Hmm, what can I say about the pilot episode of this show that is positive? The casting is pretty decent, I think they made a good choice with Ruby Rose and the ensemble cast surrounding her. The Bat suit looked pretty awesome and I think that the story has a lot of potential to open up as the show goes on. Now for the negative….. I found the Flashbacks to be unnecessary this early on, I felt that they could of saved that for a later episode along with the twist at the end revealing who the bad woman really was to our lead character Kate. I also found the fight scenes to be very basic and overall typical along with the fighting itself to be shown in multiple cuts. I am not expecting it to be as good as the movies but when you have shows like Arrow, Daredevil and Punisher out there which are constantly pushing the boundaries of choreography you expect a little better. I hope that as the season progresses, these factors do as well. The last part of my comment may offend some people but it is not my intention. I am a huge comic book fan and therefore am aware that Batwoman from this version is a lesbian which I have no problems with at all. What I would say is that I hope they don’t needlessly push it in our faces for no reason. If it is plot driven or just general scenes that add to the dynamic of the episode then that is great but I hope the show avoids using such scenes to push a pointless ulterior motive of attracting more LGBT viewers at the sacrifice of a weak story. At the very least it has my attention and I shall stick with it as long as I think it is worth it like I did with Supergirl which is currently losing such concentration at the moment.

Lunchbox37 1 points 1 month ago

No matter what someone will whinny about something. It’s to gay ,it’s not gay enough blah blah blah. As long as it gets better and you enjoy the bat fam be glad we get something to do with Batman now that Gotham is over!

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TreeofWoe13 0 points 1 month ago

I’m enjoying it so far. Nothing spectacular per se. Until you consider that it’s a DC show AND on CW. On par with Gotham in my opinion. Better than most CW/DC shows beyond that. Simply my opinion. I could care less about the gay or whatever thing.

derekishere -3 points 1 month ago

Wow just amazing show how it’s done with the lights and shadows leaving somethings to the imagination. The structure of the show was spot on in the details with most shows go soft. Nice leading lady love the suit it shows better. Wondering how it all fits together? It will blow your mind in the first ten minutes into the show, and it gets better, but just wait till the ending and see who is who!!!

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SYLCollective 0 points 1 month ago

I liked it. At first I thought it was going to be bad, beccause the first bit of the episode didn’t live up to my expectations of it, but it got better as it went along. I’m interested in the storyline, and curious to see what happens next.

MissMorgue -4 points 1 month ago

The show was oddly paced and strangely predictable in a way that all of the DCU is predictable - mild annoyance that they took the PoC female love interest from her past and made her suddenly toot the hetero-is-bettero horn of lies.
Not a great show, nut also not the worst show out there.
It’s better than Season 8 Game of Thrones.

darklighter1 -1 points 1 month ago

Little hokey but not terrible. Where is Alfred and Grayson and Commissioner Gordon? They all go missing too? That Batman suit though was pretty terrible.