The path to our new normal is changing rapidly. As life opens up for much of the country, our two most populated states are battling to contain a growing number of COVID cases. How long can we afford this stop-start scenario?Panellists: Sarah Henderson, Liberal Senator for Victoria; Adam Bandt, Leader of the Australian Greens; Margy Osmond, CEO of the Tourism and Transport Forum; Jodie McVernon, Epidemiologist, Doherty Institute; L-FRESH the LION, Hip Hop artist from south-west Sydney; with a live cross to Michael Gunner, Chief Minister of the Northern Territory.