there are some points about this “drama” i really dont get…maybe its just me.
1.when you nearly have a full continent to choose from, why on earth would you stick on a nearly inhabitable half-desert area instead of going north towards fertile land?
2.apart from the whole “bad guy” after “bad guy” after “bad guy” thing, why after years in the apocalypse you havnt equipped yourself from the vast US-army supply with some half armored vehicles for self protection? dont tell me, 1-5% of the population left over have consumed ALL gasoline in the whole states..
3.being smart enough(which is not gimple’s way) to go north, by now there should be agricultural progress instead of “tomatos in pots” etc town farming.
4.seeing again and again examples,how the dead drive themselfs towards noise/smoke etc,why nobody thought till now to use it to lure them into destruction? a valley like in a TWD season,a nice firepit there and some fortified bulldozers to put them in a deep pit should help clear areas effectivly.

but then, since years its clear,all this isnt on the mind of the writers,its an endless self-pity/cruel society perpetuum mobile,guided by the sick society concept of George Romero.
“eat the rich”as a graphic novel…tiring,really tiring.

at last,the how many by now “re-inovation” of this sorry Morgan might this become? now the “avenger of the poor” in Zorro-style?
for Gods sake!

Sooo…suicide by Maggie?

Am I the only one that thinks that Darlene was the cause of all the grief in this episode?!! Yeah, Dan did good but, knowing that the hardware store is struggling, what would make either of them think that a raise is even possible?!! Why would anyone take professional advice from someone who’s made such “wise” professional decisions?!!

Argh! This episode just pissed me off!!

From what I’ve read, she won’t be back full time if I read the article right. Sad, but she hasn’t had that many movies in the past couple of years, so she may see tv as her way to keep her acting status.

In the letter she wrote to Alex, she said she had eaten all of the rats and she marked on the calendar 3 days that she was finally without food.

Too much fiction, not enough science. It’s a bit woo-woo for me, and the field agents have too much soap opera going on. I would rather see the lab guys figuring out the debris, though with this type of show one of the lab guys be getting divorced, one would be an alcoholic and the general in charge would be a space alien in a skin suit…

Totally agree (gotta have a villian tho) and I was just wishful thinking(but where’s bone and clothes). Do wonder of the fate of Ruth and B

Anna Torv as Leonard Nimoy(RIP)…brilliant! Great sub-plot and so well-played. Really enjoyed her work in this one! 5 of 5

I beg to differ. Walter wasn’t “willing” to let Peter die…just the opposite. He was noticeably unwilling…he just saw no other option. It wasn’t as if he could keep the keys and walk away from the girl.

…bingeing long after the series ended…how bittersweet to enjoy a show so much knowing that it’s no longer in production …sigh!

I bet he can grow it back.

Definitely going to be spoilers for both seasons, so turn back now if you want to avoid that.
So…just finished season 2 and I’m struck by something the Chief of Police had to say as being a one sentence critique of this series…both 1st and 2nd seasons. That quote being “These witches just hate men.”
And I have to wonder if that quote doesn’t exactly describe the screenwriters and producers of this show. Because in BOTH seasons now the central themes have been “Men are evil…women are victims.” It happened in the first season with the victimized women in the religious community…and now in the second season with the innocent wife being framed for murder by her police officer husband. In both seasons the main theme was that authoritarian males will wreck destruction on everything they touch. And this wasn’t limited to heterosexual males alone..oh no. In the first season the show depicted the male police officer in a same sex relationship as being a violently confused and emotionally stunted thug who beat his own same sex partner. So the domineering and power-driven dynamic of Males wasn’t excused as being only in heterosexual relationships with these writers of the scripts.
And this seems like a deliberate attempt to stoke divisions between Genders, in my view. Because in the 2nd season we see the writers mention these very divisions during the arrest of the mercenary who had the poison. While he is in jail he states…directly….that “wars are everywhere…between generations, between classes, between men and women” and he says this about this war between men and women twice. So the writers are distinctly aware….thinking about….these supposed struggles. And in my view they are attempting to exacerbate them.
By comparison, I look at other “Nordic Noir” murder mystery series like “The Bridge” or “Bordertown”/Sorjonen tv series and you will find male and female police officers working TOGETHER to catch the criminals of society. With the two partners complimenting one another. In The Bridge it is Sagan Norien who is the brainy one while her male partner is more the traditional muscle, while in Sorjonen it is he who is the brainy (eh…if we can call his craziness “brainy”) one while the female Russian partner is the “muscle” who can move pragmatic levers to catch the suspects. On balance I prefer these types of shows that do NOT promote the idea of gender warfare between the sexes over shows that prism every action thru the idea of “here is how women are being messed over by Men…always”. I prefer to see a more balanced view of characters with different skill sets versus shows that promote the concept of “every Male is bad…it’s always their fault” that characterized this show.
As I say, to me this show went out of its way deliberately to promote a narrative of gender warfare…and had to do so very awkwardly in the 2nd season. For the police officer to so overreact to his wife’s affair by getting her arrested for a murder she did not commit is a U-turn from his previous character portrayal that it comes off as a badly written departure. He’s suppose to go from being willing to turn HIMSELF in for accidentally killing a deer to keep Justice….to being willing to send his innocent wife to prison for murder? That’s anti-Male hatred at work by the writers. They had to shoe-horn an act that went totally against everything the character had previously done…and it comes off feeling ham-handed. That the goal wasn’t to tell a good story consistent with itself but instead was to promote a man-hating agenda.
So I’d suggest other Nordic Noir shows. I’ve already mentioned 2 I consider to be excellent. Bordertown and “The Bridge” but there are a host of others that have much smoother stories…and even handle the issue of male versus female roles in society and in police work far better than this series did.

Wait! Was that a coin toss? If it was, Cara Dune owes “Blue” (Cpt Carson Teva) a drink!
Good episode, nice bit of action! Teva’s words might be hinting at an investigation into signs of another rebellion…some say the experimentation is Gideon trying to gain the force…yikes!

I think the wife’s father would have done it to protect his daughter and her family, not to get rid of the son in law. The murder victim was obsessed with her.

My prime suspects are the wife’s father and the wife’s blonde friend. The Father has definitely shown a darker side this episode and a propensity for deceit. The Blonde friend seems to be getting far more screen time than is justified for the role she is playing in this story. Perhaps the blonde friend had been hooking up with the husband as well until the murder victim came along. Or the murder victim could have wronged her in some other way. She just seems too innocent in this story and is getting unjustified screen time, it would definitely be the chance to defy expectations by the writers.

Is the algae supposed to be “manna from heaven?”
…asking for a friend…

“no dont eat the spawn” had me in fits of laughter -not everything likes being eaten baby yoda hahah -and if you have arachnophobia this episode aint for you

anyone notice that the masks on the devolving humanoids are like the ones that the giant engineers had from Prometheus/alien and that the alien she gave birth too has the same teeth structure as the stuff in the goo on Prometheus -ridley scott is a genius -i really did not think anything would tie in with alien franchise -looking forward to season 2

Yep, still likin’ Kidman for the skull-bashing.
Another great episode…lots of disclosure in this one.
FWIW, Sutherland still does it for me…I think it’s the gravelly voice.
He’s one of the few great Hollywood voices left…RIP Sir Sean Connery!
As always, thanks Uploaders!

Gosh! I could feel John’s pain! They sucker punched me with this one!
But I figured that would be the only way Virginia could “fix it” and keep a key player “on her team”…for now.

P.S. I love Amy Sedaris! So glad they’ve made her recurring…as long as anyone lands on Tatooine, I mean.

Those Xbows are right outta GOT

So where is all the speculating about who that was on the cliff before the credits rolled. My kid thinks it’s Boba OFC, says he looked like a clone and what other reason would a clone have for being there. I t have no clue and think it’s wishful thinking on his part. I’m interested to hear anymore thoughts on it, I’m sure some of the truly knowledgeable SW fans have a better idea than us.

My entries for the pool:
Who killed Elena? Doc Fraser (Nicole Kidman)
Who’s the baby’s father? Doc Fraser (Hugh Grant)

PS Excellent first episode!

Yum! Sugar-coated zombies! In your local supermarkets now!