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The Rachel Maddow Show (2008) S2021 E37

nikkimckelvy -3 points 3 years ago.

“murder of a US resident by a foreign leader who then had excuses made for him by the previous US president.” -The journalist in question was Turkish, and I don’t agree with Trump much either.
“I can question the queen of my country (that’s QE2). I can say pretty much anything I want about her.
Same with the royals from Holland or Sweden or wherever.” - Those are completely different cultures. A better comparison would be looking at England down through the ages, and shall we discuss what the kings did to people who insulted them 1500 years ago? QE2 is fantastic, but she’s the exception, not the rule, when it comes to questioning a monarch.
“Thailand has really strict legal protections for its king. But nobody gets murdered for breaching them. “ Are you even close to being aware of what’s happening in Thailand right now? There’s a ton of fighting b/c it’s illegal to question their government.
“respects the rule of law - like the US - and suffer no consequences,” Americans just got rid of an a— who didn’t respect the rule of law and suffered no consequences- but I digress.
“The fact that this douchebag thinks he is some representative of god who…” He, and his people, honestly believe that there is something superior in their blood. English kings and queens argued that point for over a millennium. Historically speaking, the God-King philosophy has proven itself to be one of the most effective forms of governance.
I’m not arguing the rightness or wrongness of the prince’s actions. I’m saying that this is a conflict of ideoloigies. I’m also saying that journalist was suicidally stupid for writing that and then entering into that embassy. He can write it, but he should not have expected anything good from that government. He could have hired a representative to go in there for him.

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Paul Wombat 2 points 3 years ago.

nikki, almost everything you’ve said is either wrong or irrelevant. Jamal Khashoggi was a Saudi citizen and, like I said, a US resident. Nobody cares what was happening in England 500 years ago. I don’t care what Fred Flinstone got up to back in the Stone Age either. I live in this world at this time. So did Khashoggi, before he was murdered.
Am I even close to being aware of what’s happening in Thailand? Well, seeing as I live about half my life there, yes. And we were talking about what happens when you get on the wrong side of a god-king, not the military junta that rules Thailand. You’re switching focus and pretending they’re the same.
Are you now trying to defend undemocratic military dictatorships as well?
How stupid or naive this bloke was it irrelevant. That’s a really dumb justification for extrajudicial murder.
Your strange ideas about absolute monarchy being an effective form of government simply show that you have no knowledge of history. There’s a reason why it was called the Dark Ages and why European culture only flourished once checks were placed on the power of those born to imagined divinity.

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