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The Rachel Maddow Show (2008) S2021 E37

Paul Wombat 4 points 3 years ago.

Who are we to question that?
Well, I am a person who doesn’t like butchery and murder, particularly the murder of a US resident by a foreign leader who then had excuses made for him by the previous US president. Who actually bragged that he had protected the Saudi prince from being answerable for his murderous actions!
I can question the queen of my country (that’s QE2). I can say pretty much anything I want about her.
Same with the royals from Holland or Sweden or wherever.
Thailand has really strict legal protections for its king. But nobody gets murdered for breaching them. Certainly no journalists writing for US newspapers.
The day any of these god-kings start murdering journalists who are the legitimate residents of a foreign country that is supposedly a democracy that respects the rule of law - like the US - and suffer no consequences, is the day that I’ll start taking a really severe dislike to them as well.
Oh yeah. The fact that this douchebag thinks he is some representative of god who has the right to kill people and the fact that what you think are the ‘interests of his country’ so conveniently align with his own desire for brutal and murderous revenge, is not any kind of valid and reasonable excuse for any rational, decent human being.

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nikkimckelvy -3 points 3 years ago.

“murder of a US resident by a foreign leader who then had excuses made for him by the previous US president.” -The journalist in question was Turkish, and I don’t agree with Trump much either.
“I can question the queen of my country (that’s QE2). I can say pretty much anything I want about her.
Same with the royals from Holland or Sweden or wherever.” - Those are completely different cultures. A better comparison would be looking at England down through the ages, and shall we discuss what the kings did to people who insulted them 1500 years ago? QE2 is fantastic, but she’s the exception, not the rule, when it comes to questioning a monarch.
“Thailand has really strict legal protections for its king. But nobody gets murdered for breaching them. “ Are you even close to being aware of what’s happening in Thailand right now? There’s a ton of fighting b/c it’s illegal to question their government.
“respects the rule of law - like the US - and suffer no consequences,” Americans just got rid of an a— who didn’t respect the rule of law and suffered no consequences- but I digress.
“The fact that this douchebag thinks he is some representative of god who…” He, and his people, honestly believe that there is something superior in their blood. English kings and queens argued that point for over a millennium. Historically speaking, the God-King philosophy has proven itself to be one of the most effective forms of governance.
I’m not arguing the rightness or wrongness of the prince’s actions. I’m saying that this is a conflict of ideoloigies. I’m also saying that journalist was suicidally stupid for writing that and then entering into that embassy. He can write it, but he should not have expected anything good from that government. He could have hired a representative to go in there for him.

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